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Dissent and criticism are not treason

Please read this post and participate. I'm sick of being called unpatriotic because I don't follow the President blindly.


May. 22nd, 2004 08:33 pm (UTC)
Re: Question.
A quick websearch reveals that Senator Tom Davis (R-Va.) says Tom Daschle was "giving aid and comfort to our enemies" by criticising Bush. Rush Limbaugh says Kerry is "siding with the enemies" by criticising Bush. And Bush himself said, "Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."

So I'm unpatriotic, and guilty of treason, and against America, according to these folks, because I dare to criticise Bush.
May. 22nd, 2004 09:11 pm (UTC)
Re: Question.
Well... See, my problem with your first two examples is that they're completely lacking context. What exactly did Daschle say the prompted Davis's response? And what specifically was Kerry saying that caused Limbaugh to react the way he did? You might say it doesn't matter, and, well, in some ways it probably doesn't. But without the context, you simply aren't getting the whole story. You're using your hatred of Bush to read in the missing context; personally, I would prefer to know both sides of these issues. Your first example is almost a straight quote, completely devoid of explanation of what Daschle said, and the second one makes only oblique references, and doesn't get into the substance of Kerry's criticism. I really feel that these are vital pieces to the puzzle, and can't (and shouldn't) easily be brushed aside.

As for the third one... Well, I guess I see that as something different. In this case, however, we know the context, because it is provided in the article. Specifically:
Calling Osama bin Laden's organization the Mafia of terrorism and comparing it to Nazism, President Bush created a new Cabinet position Thursday charged with "homeland security" and drew his own line in the sand in his global war against terrorism--dividing the world cleanly into allies and enemies.

"Every nation and every region now has a decision to make," Bush said. "Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."

As the president directed his most pointed challenge yet at nations that sponsor or harbor terrorists
So Bush was not referring to a specific person. He was referring to nations that are harboring them or assisting in their acts. I consider that extremely different from the picture you were painting. Do I agree with the exact substance of what he said? No, I don't think so, but I think his point was actually very clear, and when you look at the whole thing, it's quite obvious who he's speaking to and about, and who he's not, and that information is vital.

But I'm still curious about something else, and this is the original question I attempted to ask (though I realize, in retrospect, it wasn't clear). Has anyone told you personally that you're unpatriotic because you criticize Bush? I'm not asking right now about your extrapolations based on what other politicians have said to or about each other, but has anyone said that directly to you?
May. 24th, 2004 07:57 am (UTC)
Re: Question.
I can't find a more detailed account of what Rush Limbaugh was referring to, but here's an article about the Daschle speech that Davis said "gave aid and comfort to our enemies": http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/02/28/daschle.war.on.terrorism/index.html

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