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Grr arrgh political rant.

A Republican friend of mine (Hi westernactor!) recently pointed out Mark Levin's editorial of July 21 that basically uses the time-honoured "he did it first!" strategy to say that since Clinton lied about Iraq's nuclear weapons program (or lack thereof), nobody should have any problem with Bush also lying about it. (Of course, he doesn't admit that Bush lied. He actually says that Bush's statement was "qualified yet accurate," despite convincing evidence to the contrary.)

I have a problem with this. In my opinion, no president, no matter what their political leanings, should lie to the American people. It wasn't right when Clinton did it, and it's not right now that Bush is doing it. And yet many Republicans think that Bush has done nothing wrong.

Defenders of Bush are saying that these "16 little words" are really no big deal, and asking why people are getting so upset and latching onto them to "attack" the President. And yet, when Clinton uttered his 11 little words ("I did not have sexual relations with this woman, Miss Lewinsky"), the Republicans took it upon themselves to spend nearly $80 million investigating him.

Clinton's lies did not kill thousands of innocent people. They did not make a large portion of the world protest our actions. They did not fuel widespread hatred of our country and its government. Bush's lies, on the other hand, killed thousands upon thousands of civilians, drove millions of people worldwide to protest against the war, and gave people more reason to hate the U.S.

Ridding Iraq of Saddam Hussein was a good thing, but it shouldn't have been accomplished this way, especially not if the actions were based on a foundation of lies and misdirection. If you're truly in the right, you don't need propaganda to convince people.

Comments

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mangofandango
Jul. 25th, 2003 08:26 am (UTC)
*applause*

I feel that is all I need to say. :)
okb
Jul. 25th, 2003 10:12 am (UTC)
Hear, hear. Moreover, if Bush's only lie was those "16 little words", I'm a monkey's uncle.
duchez
Jul. 25th, 2003 11:31 am (UTC)
hmm
I wasn't sure whether to comment or not. The fact that you began your post with "A Republican friend of mine" bothered me to no end. I have no problem with the content, and you make a point with multiple links fairly well. But what need was there to categorize the friend that way? You would never start a pro-democrat view with "A Democrat friend of mine...", would you? (And yes, plenty of people told me there was no point in getting worked up over this, but I couldn't get it off my mind)
rfreebern
Jul. 25th, 2003 12:16 pm (UTC)
Re: hmm
Well, the main thing I was discussing was the difference between the Democrat and Republican points of view on this issue. I would definitely mention that a person was a Democrat if I was discussing their political viewpoint. It's the same as mentioning a person's nationality when discussing cultural views, or what type of computer they use when discussing software, for instance. I think it just serves to help establish the playing field, and let people know a little bit about the people involved.

I'm sorry that it bothered you, though.
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violetstarfly
Jul. 25th, 2003 11:53 am (UTC)
::nods in agreement::
teehee, this is like my post last week, except better cuz you took the time to add all the spiffy links. I say we need to impeach him. Clinton had his faults, most of them personal, but he did a damn good job overal as president. I would totally support him if he choses to run for a third term, as he's hinted he might do. And, again, I hope they impeach Bush. He's so corrupt it's scary, and the long term effects of what he's doing are absolutely horrifying and mind boggling. He's is one scary person.
popeyechicken
Jul. 25th, 2003 03:07 pm (UTC)
"Clinton's lies did not kill thousands of innocent people. They did not make a large portion of the world protest our actions. They did not fuel widespread hatred of our country and its government"

Amen.

Thanks for injecting a little perspective into the whole debate.
popeyechicken
Jul. 25th, 2003 03:08 pm (UTC)
BTW-If those 16 little words "didn't matter," why were they included in the president's most important speech of the year?

Hmm...
creednceclrh20
Jul. 25th, 2003 09:52 pm (UTC)
I know this isn't the best comment for this post, but I just wanted to tell you that "Grrr Arrgh" is my favorite phrase of all time. lol "Arrgh" is the only answer to "Grrr."
rfreebern
Jul. 25th, 2003 09:59 pm (UTC)
Especially if you are a Mutant Enemy! :)
evaleia
Jul. 26th, 2003 12:20 pm (UTC)
of course it's not right that he lied! I agree with you that no President should lie like that to the people - although I'm sure every pres in the history of the United States has, it doesn't make it right...I don't understand how they still think that they can being that everything just gets exposed later...it's just stupid really...and that line was really not necessary to the decision to go to war...if he left it out, the outcome would have been the same without this fuss

And as for Clinton, he was really negligent in these matters and should have dealt with the Middle East better himself...
fmi_agent
Jul. 27th, 2003 04:30 pm (UTC)
my own take on that national review column ...
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